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  1. #1

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    Apr 2007
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    Warszawa

    Domyślnie Czy samolot startuje "na pełnej mocy silników" ?


    Polecamy

    Konkretnie chciałem zapytać, czy pilot samolotu wykorzystuje pełną moc silników tylko do startu,czy też do osiągnięcia prędkości maksymalnej na określonym pułapie ?.A może do startu samolotu nie jest potrzebna maksymalna moc silników ?.Czy siła wiatru ,pod który startuje samolot ma wpływ na uzycie takiej,czy innej mocy silników ?

  2. #2
    Awatar wegi

    Dołączył
    Jan 2007
    Mieszka w
    epby

    Domyślnie

    Zależy od bardzo wielu czynników. Wagi samolotu, temperatur, długości pasa, siły wiatru (szczególnie chodzi o tzw. windshears, uskoki). Z reguły korzysta się z tzw. reduce take power,czasem redukuje się też climb power i tak się wznosi.. Aby nie 'przegrzać' silników, ciąg po starcie nieco się redukuje.
    zapraszam --> www.vlatanie.blog.pl
    ostatnia aktualizacja 6.03.2011

  3. #3
    Awatar saturn5

    Dołączył
    Apr 2007
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    Taurus-Littrow

    Domyślnie

    Rzadko uzywaja cala moc - to kosztuje niepotrzebnym zuzyciem silnikow. Dlatego zasada jest taka ze uzywaja minimalna moc silnikow potrzebna do startu w danych warunkach. Piloci maja specjalne tablice do swojego samolotu i danego lotniska/pasa przy pomocy ktorych obliczaja minimalna moc do startu biorac pod uwage mase samolotu, wiatr, temperature, itp. Natomiast sa niezalezne przepisy ktore zabraniaja im uzywania zmniejszonej mocy jak pas jest oblodzony albo mokry.

    Tutaj masz przyklad jak taka tablica wyglada dla 747-400 (Virgin Atlantic) dla pasow 9L/R na LHR.

    ELEVATION 83 FT LHR
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF LONDON/HEATHROW
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 09L ** ** RWY 09R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 317500 331200* 147 155 163 319600* 149 155 163
    0.0 64A 321300 334600* 148 156 164 323000* 150 156 164
    0.0 62A 325300 338000* 149 157 165 326400* 150 157 165
    0.0 60A 329300 341400* 150 158 166 329800* 151 158 166
    0.0 58A 333700 344900* 151 159 167 333200* 152 159 167
    0.0 56A 338300 348300* 150 160 168 336700* 151 160 168
    103.0 54 344200 352500F 151 162 170 341200* 151 161 169
    103.8 52 354800 359600F 154 164 172 348900* 153 162 171
    104.6 50 365800 367500F 154 167 175 357000* 152 164 173
    105.2 48 375000 374400F 154 169 177 363700* 152 166 175
    105.4 46 381800 379300F 155 170 178 368400* 153 167 176
    105.7 44 388200 384100F 156 170 179 373000* 154 167 177
    106.0 42 394600 390300F 157 171 180 377600* 154 168 178
    106.3 40 400900 397100F 155 171 180 381900* 153 169 179
    106.5 38 407200 401700F 156 172 181 386500* 154 170 180
    106.8 36 413900 406200F 155 171 181 393900* 154 170 180
    107.0 34 420900 410800F 155 171 181 399400* 155 171 181
    107.3 32 427700 415400F 154 171 181 403900* 155 171 181
    107.0 30 427700 416400F 154 171 181 404900* 155 171 181
    106.6 28 427700 417400F 154 171 181 405900* 155 171 181
    106.3 26 427700 418400F 154 171 181 406900* 155 171 181
    105.9 24 427700 419500F 154 171 181 408000* 155 171 181
    105.6 22 427700 420500F 154 171 181 409000* 155 171 181
    105.2 20 427700 421600F 154 171 181 410100* 155 171 181
    104.9 18 427700 422600F 154 171 181 411100* 155 171 181
    104.5 16 427700 423700F 154 171 181 412100* 155 171 181
    104.1 14 427700 424700F 154 171 181 413100* 155 171 181
    103.8 12 427700 425800F 154 171 181 414200* 155 171 181
    103.4 10 427700 426900F 154 171 181 415200* 155 171 181
    103.1 8 427700 428100F 154 171 181 416300* 155 171 181
    102.7 6 427700 429200F 154 171 181 417300* 155 171 181
    102.3 4 427700 430400F 154 171 181 418300* 155 171 181
    102.0 2 427700 431500F 154 171 181 419200* 155 171 181
    101.6 0 427700 432600F 154 171 181 420200* 155 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 330 430
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2740 2790
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 12802 12000
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.00/ 0.00 0.01/ 0.01
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 618 609
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 357 508 476
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    09L NONE
    09R NONE

  4. #4

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    Kraków

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez saturn5
    Tutaj masz przyklad jak taka tablica wyglada dla 747-400 (Virgin Atlantic) dla pasow 9L/R na LHR.
    Uuuuu-masz więcej takich smakołyków?

  5. #5
    Awatar saturn5

    Dołączył
    Apr 2007
    Mieszka w
    Taurus-Littrow

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez Rafał
    Uuuuu-masz więcej takich smakołyków?
    Mam tylko dla 747-400 i tylko do paru lotnisk gdzie Virgin lata (a wiec Miami, JFK, LAX, etc.) - ale nie do wszystkich pasow. Kapitan VA Jon Bunting skopiowal je (w godzinach pracy, he, he) dla paru entuzjastow MSFS PMDG 747-400. Poza tym to tego raczej nigdzie nie znajdziesz na internecie.

  6. #6
    Awatar thewho

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    WAW

    Domyślnie

    Reduced thrust take-off nie moze byc stosowane gdy:
    - pas jest oblodzony
    - pas jest zanieczyszczony (contaminated runway)
    - anti-skid jest niesprawny
    - odwracacz ciagu jest niesprawny
    - w polaczeniu z procedura zwiekszonej V2
    - wylaczony PMC

    Maksymalna redukcja moze wyniesc do 25% mocy tej potrzebnej do normalnego startu

  7. #7

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    EPST

    Domyślnie

    A co to jest anti-skid i pmc?

  8. #8
    Awatar thewho

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    WAW

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez Vizact
    A co to jest anti-skid i pmc?
    Anti-skid to uklad antyposlizgowy - taki "ABS" dla samolotu.
    PMC - power management computer - u roznych producentow wystepuje rozna nazwa

  9. #9
    Awatar saturn5

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    Apr 2007
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    Taurus-Littrow

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez thewho
    PMC - power management computer - u roznych producentow wystepuje rozna nazwa
    Boeing to chyba nazywa EEC - Electronic Engine Control

  10. #10
    Awatar thewho

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    WAW

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez saturn5
    Cytat Zamieszczone przez thewho
    PMC - power management computer - u roznych producentow wystepuje rozna nazwa
    Boeing to chyba nazywa EEC - Electronic Engine Control
    Z tego co kiedys pobieznie przegladalem to w classicach nazywal to PMC a w NG nazywa juz to EEC

  11. #11

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
    Mieszka w
    Kraków

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez saturn5
    Cytat Zamieszczone przez Rafał
    Uuuuu-masz więcej takich smakołyków?
    Mam tylko dla 747-400 i tylko do paru lotnisk gdzie Virgin lata (a wiec Miami, JFK, LAX, etc.) - ale nie do wszystkich pasow. Kapitan VA Jon Bunting skopiowal je (w godzinach pracy, he, he) dla paru entuzjastow MSFS PMDG 747-400. Poza tym to tego raczej nigdzie nie znajdziesz na internecie.
    A możesz to jakoś podesłać czy nie bardzo?

  12. #12
    Awatar saturn5

    Dołączył
    Apr 2007
    Mieszka w
    Taurus-Littrow

    Domyślnie

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez Rafał
    A możesz to jakoś podesłać czy nie bardzo?
    Moge, wrzuce co mam tutaj - za jakies 12 godzin od tej chwili.

  13. #13
    Awatar saturn5

    Dołączył
    Apr 2007
    Mieszka w
    Taurus-Littrow

    Domyślnie

    ELEVATION 83 FT LHR
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF LONDON/HEATHROW
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 27L ** ** RWY 27R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 317500 311400* 147 153 161 320200* 153 155 163
    0.0 64A 321300 314700* 148 154 162 323700* 154 156 164
    0.0 62A 325300 317900* 149 154 163 327200* 154 157 165
    0.0 60A 329300 321300* 149 155 164 330700* 155 158 166
    0.0 58A 333700 324600* 150 156 164 334400* 156 159 167
    0.0 56A 338300 328100* 148 157 165 338100* 155 160 168
    103.0 54 344200 332300* 149 158 167 342900* 155 161 169
    103.8 52 354800 339700* 150 160 168 351100* 156 163 171
    104.6 50 365800 347700* 150 161 171 360000* 156 165 174
    105.2 48 375000 354500* 150 163 172 367500* 155 167 176
    105.4 46 381800 359400* 151 164 174 373000* 156 168 177
    105.7 44 388200 364100F 151 165 175 378300* 157 169 178
    106.0 42 394600 368500F 152 166 176 383500* 157 170 179
    106.3 40 400900 372600F 151 167 177 389000* 156 171 180
    106.5 38 407200 377000F 152 167 178 395900* 157 171 180
    106.8 36 413900 381400F 153 168 179 401000* 157 171 181
    107.0 34 420900 385900F 153 169 180 406100* 157 171 181
    107.3 32 427700 393100F 154 169 180 411300* 156 171 181
    107.0 30 427700 394900F 154 170 180 412000* 156 171 181
    106.6 28 427700 396400F 154 170 180 412700* 156 171 181
    106.3 26 427700 397400F 154 170 180 413400* 156 171 181
    105.9 24 427700 398400F 154 170 181 414100* 156 171 181
    105.6 22 427700 399400* 155 171 181 414800* 157 171 181
    105.2 20 427700 400300* 155 171 181 415500* 157 171 181
    104.9 18 427700 401100* 155 171 181 416200* 157 171 181
    104.5 16 427700 402100* 155 171 181 417000* 157 171 181
    104.1 14 427700 402900* 155 171 181 417700* 157 171 181
    103.8 12 427700 403900* 155 171 181 418400* 157 171 181
    103.4 10 427700 404800* 155 171 181 419100* 158 171 181
    103.1 8 427700 405700* 155 171 181 419800* 158 171 181
    102.7 6 427700 406700* 155 171 181 420600* 158 171 181
    102.3 4 427700 407600* 156 171 181 421300* 158 171 181
    102.0 2 427700 408500* 156 171 181 422000* 158 171 181
    101.6 0 427700 409500* 156 171 181 422700* 158 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 450 370
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2780 2450
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 11300 12743
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT -0.01/-0.01 0.00/ 0.00
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 256/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 618 609
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 357 508 476
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    27L NONE
    27R NONE
    NOTE – 27L START OF ROLL IS FROM ENTRY ONTO RUNWAY VIA NB2W HOLD.




    ELEVATION 13 FT JFK
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF NEW YORK/J F KENNEDY
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 13L ** ** RWY 13R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318100 299000F 142 149 157 338500* 153 155 163
    0.0 64A 322000 302100F 143 149 158 342200* 153 156 164
    0.0 62A 325900 305000F 143 150 159 346000* 154 157 165
    0.0 60A 329900 308000F 144 151 160 349900* 155 158 166
    0.0 58A 334400 310900F 145 152 161 354100* 155 159 167
    0.0 56A 339000 313800F 143 152 162 358400* 154 160 168
    103.1 54 344900 317600F 144 153 163 363800* 155 162 170
    103.8 52 355900 324500F 145 155 164 373200* 157 165 173
    104.6 50 367000 331600F 145 156 166 382100* 157 167 175
    105.2 48 376000 337700F 145 157 168 391000* 157 169 177
    105.4 46 382600 341900F 146 158 169 398100* 159 170 179
    105.7 44 389100 346100F 147 159 170 403200* 159 171 180
    106.0 42 395500 350300F 147 160 171 408200* 159 171 180
    106.2 40 401700 354100F 147 161 172 412900* 158 172 181
    106.5 38 408000 358200F 147 162 173 417700* 158 172 181
    106.8 36 414800 362300F 148 163 174 422600* 157 171 181
    107.0 34 421700 366400F 149 164 175 427400* 157 171 181
    107.2 32 428100 370500F 150 164 176 432000* 157 171 181
    106.9 30 428100 371400F 150 165 176 433000* 157 171 181
    106.6 28 428100 372400F 150 165 177 433900* 157 171 181
    106.2 26 428100 373300F 150 165 177 434900* 157 171 181
    105.9 24 428100 374300F 151 165 177 435800* 157 171 181
    105.5 22 428100 375300F 151 166 177 436800* 157 171 181
    105.1 20 428100 376300F 151 166 178 437800* 157 171 181
    104.8 18 428100 377300F 151 166 178 438800* 157 171 181
    104.4 16 428100 378300F 152 167 178 439800* 157 171 181
    104.1 14 428100 379400F 152 167 178 440700* 157 171 181
    103.7 12 428100 380400F 152 167 178 441700* 157 171 181
    103.4 10 428100 381500F 152 167 179 442700* 157 171 181
    103.0 8 428100 382500F 153 168 179 443700* 157 171 181
    102.6 6 428100 383600F 153 168 179 444700* 157 171 181
    102.3 4 428100 384700F 153 168 179 445700* 157 171 181
    101.9 2 428100 385800F 153 169 180 446700* 157 171 181
    101.5 0 428100 387000F 154 169 180 447800* 157 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 500 110
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2530 2450
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 10000 14572
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.00/ 0.00 0.00/ 0.00
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 579 578
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 330 468 403
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    13L NONE
    13R NONE


    ELEVATION 13 FT JFK
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF NEW YORK/J F KENNEDY
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 22L ** ** RWY 22R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318100 276100F 134 141 151 316300F 147 154 162
    0.0 64A 322000 278800F 134 142 152 319600F 147 155 163
    0.0 62A 325900 281500F 135 142 153 322700F 148 156 164
    0.0 60A 329900 284300F 136 143 153 325900F 149 157 165
    0.0 58A 334400 286900F 136 144 154 329000F 150 157 166
    0.0 56A 339000 289700F 135 144 155 332000F 148 158 166
    103.1 54 344900 293200F 136 145 156 336000F 149 159 167
    103.8 52 355900 299700F 137 146 158 343000F 150 161 169
    104.6 50 367000 306500F 137 148 160 350300F 150 162 171
    105.2 48 376000 312000F 137 149 161 356700F 150 163 173
    105.4 46 382600 315900F 138 150 162 361200F 151 164 174
    105.7 44 389100 320000F 139 151 163 365600F 152 165 175
    106.0 42 395500 323900F 140 152 164 370100F 152 166 176
    106.2 40 401700 327500F 139 153 165 374200F 151 167 177
    106.5 38 408000 331400F 140 153 166 378600F 152 168 178
    106.8 36 414800 335100F 141 154 167 383000F 153 169 179
    107.0 34 421700 339000F 141 155 168 387900F 154 169 180
    107.2 32 428100 342700F 142 156 169 395400F 154 170 180
    106.9 30 428100 343600F 142 156 169 396700F 154 170 180
    106.6 28 428100 344500F 143 156 170 397700F 154 170 180
    106.2 26 428100 345300F 143 157 170 398700F 155 170 181
    105.9 24 428100 346200F 143 157 170 399700F 155 171 181
    105.5 22 428100 347100F 143 157 170 400700F 155 171 181
    105.1 20 428100 348100F 144 158 171 401700F 155 171 181
    104.8 18 428100 349000F 144 158 171 402800F 155 171 181
    104.4 16 428100 349900F 144 158 171 403800F 155 171 181
    104.1 14 428100 350900F 144 158 171 404900F 155 171 181
    103.7 12 428100 351800F 145 159 172 405900F 155 171 181
    103.4 10 428100 352700F 145 159 172 407000F 155 171 181
    103.0 8 428100 353700F 145 159 172 408100F 155 171 181
    102.6 6 428100 354700F 146 160 172 409300F 155 171 181
    102.3 4 428100 355700F 146 160 173 410400F 155 171 181
    101.9 2 428100 356700F 146 160 173 411500F 155 171 181
    101.5 0 428100 357700F 146 161 173 412600F 155 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 560 560
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2470 2840
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 8400 11351
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.00/ 0.00 0.00/ 0.00
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 579 588
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 330 468 469
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    22L NONE
    22R NONE


    ELEVATION 18 FT EWR
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF NEWARK
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 11 ** ** RWY 22L **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318100 245800W 123 129 141 304900* 140 151 159
    0.0 64A 321900 248400W 124 130 142 308100* 141 151 160
    0.0 62A 325900 250800W 124 130 143 311200* 142 152 161
    0.0 60A 329800 253300W 125 131 144 314300* 142 153 162
    0.0 58A 334400 255600W 126 132 144 317400* 143 154 163
    0.0 56A 338900 258100W 126 132 145 319800* 142 154 163
    103.1 54 344900 261200W 127 133 146 323800* 142 155 164
    103.8 52 355800 266800W 128 135 148 331100* 144 157 166
    104.6 50 366900 272900W 128 136 150 337700F 143 158 168
    105.2 48 375900 278100W 128 137 152 343900F 143 159 170
    105.4 46 382500 281700W 129 138 153 348200F 144 160 171
    105.7 44 389000 285200W 130 139 154 352500F 145 161 172
    106.0 42 395400 288800W 130 140 155 356800F 146 162 173
    106.2 40 401600 292100W 130 141 156 360800F 145 163 174
    106.5 38 407900 295600W 131 141 157 364900F 146 164 175
    106.8 36 414700 299100W 131 142 158 369100F 146 165 176
    107.0 34 421700 302600W 132 143 158 373400F 147 166 177
    107.2 32 428000 306100W 133 144 159 377600F 148 166 178
    106.9 30 428000 306900W 133 144 160 378500F 148 167 178
    106.6 28 428000 307700W 133 144 160 379500F 148 167 178
    106.2 26 428000 308500W 134 145 160 380500F 149 167 178
    105.9 24 428000 309400W 134 145 160 381500F 149 167 179
    105.5 22 428100 310200W 134 145 161 382500F 149 168 179
    105.2 20 428100 311100W 134 145 161 383600F 149 168 179
    104.8 18 428100 311900W 135 146 161 384600F 149 168 179
    104.4 16 428100 312700W 135 146 161 385600F 150 169 180
    104.1 14 428100 313600W 135 146 161 386700F 150 169 180
    103.7 12 428100 314500W 135 147 162 388400F 150 169 180
    103.4 10 428100 315300W 136 147 162 390200F 150 169 180
    103.0 8 428100 316200W 136 147 162 392100F 150 169 180
    102.6 6 428100 317100W 136 147 162 394000F 151 169 180
    102.3 4 428100 318000W 137 148 163 395900* 151 170 180
    101.9 2 428100 318900W 137 148 163 397000* 151 170 180
    101.5 0 428100 319800W 137 148 163 398000* 151 170 180
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 530 430
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 0 2790
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 6800 9980
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT -0.10/-0.10 0.02/ 0.02
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 1000/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 482 564
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 332 367 418
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 397800 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    11 NONE
    22L NONE


    ELEVATION 19 FT HKG
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF HONG KONG
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 07L ** ** RWY 07R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318000 320500* 151 155 163 319400* 152 155 163
    0.0 64A 321900 324400* 152 156 164 323200* 153 156 164
    0.0 62A 325900 328200* 153 157 165 327100* 153 157 165
    0.0 60A 329800 332100* 153 158 166 330900* 154 158 166
    0.0 58A 334400 336700* 153 159 167 335500* 154 159 167
    0.0 56A 338900 341300* 152 160 168 340000* 153 160 168
    103.1 54 344900 347300* 152 162 170 346100* 153 162 170
    103.8 52 355800 357700* 153 165 173 356500* 154 165 173
    104.6 50 366900 365800* 154 167 175 366900* 153 167 175
    105.2 48 375900 372700* 153 168 177 375400* 153 169 177
    105.4 46 382500 377600* 154 169 178 380400* 153 170 178
    105.7 44 389000 382600* 155 170 179 385300* 154 171 180
    106.0 42 395400 387800* 155 171 180 392300* 155 171 180
    106.2 40 401600 395300* 154 171 180 398400* 153 172 181
    106.5 38 407900 400200* 155 172 181 403000* 153 172 181
    106.8 36 414700 404900* 154 171 181 407700* 153 171 181
    107.0 34 421700 409600* 154 171 181 412300* 152 171 181
    107.2 32 428000 414100* 153 171 181 416800* 152 171 181
    106.9 30 428000 415000* 153 171 181 417700* 152 171 181
    106.6 28 428000 415900* 153 171 181 418700* 152 171 181
    106.2 26 428000 416900* 153 171 181 419700* 152 171 181
    105.9 24 428000 417800* 153 171 181 420700* 152 171 181
    105.5 22 428000 418800* 154 171 181 421700* 152 171 181
    105.2 20 428000 419800* 154 171 181 422600* 152 171 181
    104.8 18 428000 420800* 154 171 181 423600* 152 171 181
    104.4 16 428000 421700* 154 171 181 424600* 152 171 181
    104.1 14 428000 422700* 154 171 181 425700* 152 171 181
    103.7 12 428000 423700* 154 171 181 426700* 152 171 181
    103.4 10 428000 424700* 154 171 181 427500* 153 171 181
    103.0 8 428000 425700* 154 171 181 427600* 153 171 181
    102.6 6 428000 426700* 154 171 181 427800* 153 171 181
    102.3 4 428000 427800* 154 171 181 427900* 154 171 181
    101.9 2 428000 428800* 154 171 181 428000* 154 171 181
    101.5 0 428000 429600* 154 171 181 428100* 155 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 170 170
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2620 2660
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 12467 12467
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.01/ 0.01 -0.01/-0.01
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 984/ 0 984/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 574 575
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 333 428 413
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    07L EMERGENCY TURN - SEE JEPPESEN PAGE19-1X.
    07R EMERGENCY TURN - SEE JEPPESEN PAGE19-1X.




    ELEVATION 19 FT HKG
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF HONG KONG
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 25L ** ** RWY 25R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318000 331100* 146 155 163 334200* 144 155 163
    0.0 64A 321900 334400* 147 156 164 337600* 145 156 164
    0.0 62A 325900 337700* 147 157 165 340900* 146 157 165
    0.0 60A 329800 341100* 148 158 166 344200* 147 158 166
    0.0 58A 334400 344400* 149 159 167 347400* 148 159 167
    0.0 56A 338900 347000* 149 160 168 350200* 148 160 168
    103.1 54 344900 351400* 150 162 170 354400* 149 162 170
    103.8 52 355800 359000* 153 165 173 362000* 151 165 173
    104.6 50 366900 367100* 153 167 175 370100* 152 167 175
    105.2 48 375900 374100* 153 169 177 377000* 152 169 177
    105.4 46 382500 379000* 154 169 178 381900* 153 170 179
    105.7 44 389000 383900* 154 170 179 386900* 154 171 180
    106.0 42 395400 390000* 155 171 180 394900* 154 171 180
    106.2 40 401600 397000* 154 171 180 400000* 153 172 181
    106.5 38 407900 401600* 154 172 181 404500* 153 172 181
    106.8 36 414700 406300* 153 171 181 409200* 152 171 181
    107.0 34 421700 411000* 153 171 181 413800* 152 171 181
    107.2 32 428000 415400* 153 171 181 418200* 151 171 181
    106.9 30 428000 416300* 153 171 181 419200* 152 171 181
    106.6 28 428000 417300* 153 171 181 420200* 152 171 181
    106.2 26 428000 418300* 153 171 181 421200* 152 171 181
    105.9 24 428000 419200* 153 171 181 422200* 152 171 181
    105.5 22 428000 420200* 153 171 181 423200* 152 171 181
    105.2 20 428000 421200* 153 171 181 424200* 152 171 181
    104.8 18 428000 422200* 153 171 181 425200* 152 171 181
    104.4 16 428000 423100* 153 171 181 426300* 152 171 181
    104.1 14 428000 424100* 153 171 181 427300* 152 171 181
    103.7 12 428000 425100* 153 171 181 428400* 152 171 181
    103.4 10 428000 426200* 153 171 181 429500* 152 171 181
    103.0 8 428000 427200* 153 171 181 430500* 152 171 181
    102.6 6 428000 428300* 153 171 181 431600* 152 171 181
    102.3 4 428000 429300* 153 171 181 432700* 152 171 181
    101.9 2 428000 430400* 153 171 181 433800* 152 171 181
    101.5 0 428000 431500* 153 171 181 434900* 152 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 360 250
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2640 2690
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 12467 12467
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.01/ 0.01 -0.01/-0.01
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 984/ 0 984/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 676 611
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 333 436 536
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    25L EMERGENCY TURN - SEE JEPPESEN PAGE19-1X.
    25R EMERGENCY TURN - SEE JEPPESEN PAGE19-1X.


    ELEVATION 126 FT LAX
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF LOS ANGELES
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 07L ** ** RWY 07R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 317100 314400* 151 154 162 313100F 145 153 161
    0.0 64A 321000 317800* 152 155 163 316300F 146 154 162
    0.0 62A 324900 321100* 153 156 164 319400F 147 155 163
    0.0 60A 328900 324500* 153 156 164 322600F 148 156 164
    0.0 58A 333300 328000* 154 157 165 325600F 148 156 165
    0.0 56A 337900 331600* 152 158 166 328700F 147 157 166
    103.0 54 343700 336000* 153 159 167 332600F 148 158 167
    103.8 52 354100 343600* 154 161 169 339200F 149 159 168
    104.6 50 365200 351800* 154 163 172 346300F 149 161 170
    105.2 48 374400 358700* 153 164 173 352800F 149 162 172
    105.4 46 381300 363600* 154 165 175 357400F 149 163 173
    105.7 44 387700 368400* 155 166 176 361800F 150 164 174
    106.0 42 394100 373100* 156 167 177 366200F 151 165 175
    106.3 40 400400 377500* 155 168 178 370300F 150 166 176
    106.5 38 406700 382100* 156 169 179 374600F 151 167 177
    106.8 36 413400 386800* 156 170 180 379000F 152 168 178
    107.0 34 420300 394200* 157 170 180 383500F 152 168 179
    107.3 32 427300 399700* 157 171 181 389000F 153 169 180
    107.0 30 427400 400700* 157 171 181 390900F 153 169 180
    106.7 28 427400 401600* 157 171 181 392700F 153 169 180
    106.3 26 427400 402500* 157 171 181 394400F 153 170 180
    106.0 24 427400 403400* 158 171 181 396100F 154 170 180
    105.6 22 427500 404300* 158 171 181 397100F 154 170 180
    105.3 20 427500 405200* 158 171 181 398200F 154 170 181
    104.9 18 427500 406100* 158 171 181 399200F 154 171 181
    104.5 16 427500 407000* 158 171 181 400300F 155 171 181
    104.2 14 427500 408000* 158 171 181 401300F 155 171 181
    103.8 12 427500 408900* 158 171 181 402400F 155 171 181
    103.5 10 427500 409900* 158 171 181 403400F 155 171 181
    103.1 8 427500 410900* 158 171 181 404500F 155 171 181
    102.7 6 427500 411800* 158 171 181 405600F 155 171 181
    102.4 4 427500 412700* 158 171 181 406700F 155 171 181
    102.0 2 427500 413500* 158 171 181 407900F 155 171 181
    101.6 0 427500 414300* 158 171 181 409000F 155 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 420 570
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2560 2850
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1630 1710
    RUNWAY-FT 12091 11096
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT -0.22/-0.22 -0.21/-0.21
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 546 593
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 374 473 469
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    07L NONE
    07R NONE





    ELEVATION 126 FT LAX
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF LOS ANGELES
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 25L ** ** RWY 25R **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 317100 310400F 145 153 161 319100* 148 155 162
    0.0 64A 321000 313500F 146 153 161 322600* 149 156 163
    0.0 62A 324900 316500F 147 154 162 326100* 150 157 165
    0.0 60A 328900 319700F 147 155 163 329700* 151 158 166
    0.0 58A 333300 322700F 148 156 164 333400* 151 159 167
    0.0 56A 337900 325700F 147 156 165 337100* 150 160 168
    103.0 54 343700 329700F 148 157 166 341400F 151 161 169
    103.8 52 354100 336200F 149 159 168 348200F 152 162 171
    104.6 50 365200 342900F 149 160 169 355500F 152 164 173
    105.2 48 374400 349400F 148 161 171 362200F 152 165 174
    105.4 46 381300 353900F 149 162 172 366900F 153 166 175
    105.7 44 387700 358300F 150 163 173 371500F 153 167 176
    106.0 42 394100 362600F 151 164 174 376100F 154 168 178
    106.3 40 400400 366600F 150 165 175 380400F 153 169 178
    106.5 38 406700 370900F 151 166 176 384800F 154 170 179
    106.8 36 413400 375100F 152 167 177 391100F 154 170 180
    107.0 34 420300 379600F 152 167 178 397700F 155 171 180
    107.3 32 427300 384100F 153 168 179 402300F 155 171 181
    107.0 30 427400 385300F 153 169 180 403500F 155 171 181
    106.7 28 427400 386300F 154 169 180 404500F 155 171 181
    106.3 26 427400 387600F 154 169 180 405500F 155 171 181
    106.0 24 427400 389300F 154 169 180 406500F 155 171 181
    105.6 22 427500 391100F 154 169 180 407600F 155 171 181
    105.3 20 427500 392900F 154 169 180 408600F 155 171 181
    104.9 18 427500 394700F 154 170 180 409700F 155 171 181
    104.5 16 427500 396300F 155 170 180 410700F 155 171 181
    104.2 14 427500 397400F 155 170 180 411800F 155 171 181
    103.8 12 427500 398400F 155 170 181 412800F 155 171 181
    103.5 10 427500 399500F 155 171 181 413900F 155 171 181
    103.1 8 427500 400600F 155 171 181 415000F 155 171 181
    102.7 6 427500 401700F 155 171 181 416100F 155 171 181
    102.4 4 427500 402800F 155 171 181 417200F 155 171 181
    102.0 2 427500 403900F 155 171 181 418400F 155 171 181
    101.6 0 427500 405000F 155 171 181 419500F 155 171 181
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 430 340
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2840 2830
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 11096 12091
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.21/ 0.21 0.22/ 0.22
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 612 593
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 374 518 515
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    25L NONE
    25R NONE




    ELEVATION 8 FT MIA
    *** FLAPS 20 *** AIR COND ON ANTI-ICE OFF MIAMI
    747-400 80C2B1F DATED 01-MAY-2005
    *A* INDICATES OAT OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVELOPE
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT-KG, LIMIT CODE AND TAKEOFF SPEEDS FOR ZERO WIND
    TAKEOFF OAT CLIMB ** RWY 09 ** ** RWY 12 **
    N1 DEG C LIMIT WEIGHT V1 VR V2 WEIGHT V1 VR V2
    0.0 66A 318100 328700* 150 155 163 289700* 139 146 155
    0.0 64A 322000 332300* 151 156 164 292700* 140 146 156
    0.0 62A 326000 335800* 152 157 165 295700* 140 147 157
    0.0 60A 329900 339400* 152 158 166 298800* 141 148 157
    0.0 58A 334500 343300* 153 159 167 301700F 142 149 158
    0.0 56A 339000 347200* 152 160 168 304600F 140 149 159
    103.1 54 345000 352300* 153 162 170 308300F 141 150 160
    103.8 52 356000 361100* 155 165 173 314900F 142 152 162
    104.6 50 367000 370200* 155 167 175 321800F 142 153 164
    105.2 48 376100 377600* 155 169 177 327900F 142 154 165
    105.4 46 382600 382700F 156 170 179 332000F 143 155 166
    105.7 44 389100 388000F 157 171 180 336100F 144 156 168
    106.0 42 395500 396100F 157 171 180 340200F 145 157 169
    106.2 40 401700 400600F 156 172 181 343900F 144 158 170
    106.5 38 408100 405000F 155 172 181 347900F 145 159 171
    106.8 36 414800 409700F 155 171 181 351900F 145 160 172
    107.0 34 421800 414100F 155 171 181 355900F 146 160 173
    107.2 32 428100 418500F 154 171 181 359800F 147 161 174
    106.9 30 428100 419500F 154 171 181 360700F 147 162 174
    106.6 28 428100 420500F 154 171 181 361600F 147 162 174
    106.2 26 428100 421600F 154 171 181 362500F 148 162 174
    105.8 24 428100 422600F 154 171 181 363500F 148 162 175
    105.5 22 428100 423600F 154 171 181 364400F 148 163 175
    105.1 20 428100 424700F 154 171 181 365400F 148 163 175
    104.8 18 428100 425700F 154 171 181 366300F 149 163 175
    104.4 16 428100 426800F 154 171 181 367300F 149 163 175
    104.1 14 428100 427900F 154 171 181 368300F 149 164 176
    103.7 12 428100 429000F 154 171 181 369300F 149 164 176
    103.4 10 428100 430000* 154 171 181 370300F 150 164 176
    103.0 8 428100 430700* 155 171 181 371400F 150 165 176
    102.6 6 428100 431500* 155 171 181 372400F 150 165 177
    102.3 4 428100 432300* 155 171 181 373400F 150 165 177
    101.9 2 428100 433000* 155 171 181 374500F 151 166 177
    101.5 0 428100 433700* 155 171 181 375600F 151 166 177
    ADD KG/KT HEADWIND 310 510
    SUB KG/KT TAILWIND 2740 2510
    MIN FLAP RET. HT-FT 1500 1500
    RUNWAY-FT 13000 9354
    SLOPE (GO/STOP)-PCT 0.01/ 0.01 -0.01/-0.01
    CLEARWAY/STOPWAY-FT 0/ 0 0/ 0
    LINE-UP (GO/STOP)-FT 75.7/154.7 75.7/154.7
    LOW QNH -KG/mBar 437 626 616
    HIGH QNH +KG/mBar 328 461 429
    MAX BRAKE RELEASE WT MUST NOT EXCEED MAX CERT TAKEOFF WT OF 377842 KG
    LIMIT CODE IS F=FIELD, T=TIRE SPEED, B=BRAKE ENERGY, V=VMCG
    *=OBSTACLE/LEVEL-OFF, W=TAILWIND TAKEOFF NOT ALLOWED
    ENG-OUT PROCEDURES:
    09 NONE
    12 NONE

  14. #14

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    Feb 2007
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    czyli w skrócie samolot ma "o kropelce" startować, latać i lądować... w Ryanair pewnie coś o tym wiedzą

  15. #15
    Awatar thewho

    Dołączył
    Feb 2007
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    WAW

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    Polecamy

    Cytat Zamieszczone przez blom
    czyli w skrócie samolot ma "o kropelce" startować, latać i lądować... w Ryanair pewnie coś o tym wiedzą
    Jesli masz na mysli paliwo to akurat przy reduced takeoff climb zuzywa sie go podobno wiecej

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